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i hope that the governing body will see this.
it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.
The branch has formulated an official response to the message that was sent to some of their mailing lists. It basically tells us as always that this is apostate and to ignore the thing even though they themselves did not ignore it but found it necessary to formulate a response and file a report with my e-mail provider.
I've also got great response from some others engaging in conversation and some that have even left the organization already.
Keep it up people.
without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
More 'evil' things YOU can do to help others:
- The program gets sent out on an FM frequency for the hard-of-hearing. You can buy those transmitters yourself (battery powered) and play whatever you want on the frequency they announce in the morning. Sit close to the designated places for those hard-of-hearing for maximum effect. For really large conventions you'll need a more powerful transmitter however. This is not illegal on the frequencies the conventions use, get one that can transmit on the low frequencies though as those are most commonly used (88.1, 88.5, ...). In order not to get caught, pay attention to movements of the attendants, to catch you they need to walk up and down the aisles with a receiver. If they (are able to) turn up the power on their antenna's to overpower you, you could report them to the FCC.
- In the donation boxes drop an envelope with your own tailored message, short and sweet works best. I believe there are even Watchtower bucks somewhere that you can print. You will also look really righteous dropping in envelopes in the box (there are plenty of people that drop in envelopes, don't worry about yours being picked out).
- If the convention is in a public venue, you can arrange to put up posters before hand or even during the convention but you have to arrange this with the management unless there is a public place for it. You could even buy advertisement space in some venues. The Witnesses are NOT allowed to stop you and they are NOT allowed to remove your posters or cover your advertisement if you have permission. This is usually not anonymous though.
- Some conventions use lavalier microphones or other wireless systems. This will require an investment in the same systems they use (although they're usually the same year-after-year) and find out the codes (usually 4-8 dip switches) for the different microphones after which you'll be able to insert your own message.
- If you're an outsider, go in with jeans or with a large non-JW bible. You can use counter-intelligence measures to either lose your tail (to annoy them and see a bunch of 20-year-olds running aimlessly through the building) or find out who is tailing you (you will get somebody on your tail). Then go up to them and ask them whether you are not welcome or start talking about whatever subject you think would interest that young man - they are not prepared to talk to anyone so try to get them to talk or see the error of their ways.
- Go to the parking garages and strike up a conversation with the young dubs waiting there. They are usually alone or with 2 or 3 during the program so as long as there is no elder around (an older guy, usually with a mustache) you can maybe get them to think.
- Start conversations with random Witnesses on the street. Standing there with placards won't help but feigning interest will.
a little boy was raped by his grandmothers husband while they attended an assembly.
similar allegations had been brought against him years past but it was hushed by the elders and no charges were ever brought due to influence, another child has paid the price.
the child came forward almost instantly and the local elders hushed the congregation almost as fast.
Do you have a link to the article?
if you are an elder or an ex-elder please add a comment.
i hope that the governing body will see this.
it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.
This campaign is going great! I got some private addresses from Bethel PM'ed to me and the organization has sent a Cease and Desist to the anonymous e-mail provider I was using even though it wasn't spam or sent in great volume from that address. I off course asked it to be unlocked together with the reasons why we are doing this.
It's eerily quiet (too quiet) on the official front even though many "false religious leaders" have received it. There is absolutely no response although I got some responses (for bad or for good) from elders in congregations.
I'm now progressing on the Rank & File addresses that I have in my list.
without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
Hi you got PM's!
If you have e-mail addresses to distribute an open letter to, you can do so yourself or PM me the addresses and I'll do it for you.
if you are an elder or an ex-elder please add a comment.
i hope that the governing body will see this.
it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.
Please participate in our campaign to distribute this open letter to all Jehovah's Witnesses
i'm done with this crap.
i have a wonderful life but the last few months have been hell.
i need the formality of a disassociation letter to my old cong.
Here is a great start:
We are running a campaign to distribute this open letter to all Witnesses, Ex-Witnesses and their family. We have had great response! Please help us distribute this message either anonymously or not.
it's from the jwtalk.net (the jdub forum).
the name of the topic is "bethel volunteers?":.
dub1: it was announced at our meeting last night volunteers for bethel in nyc.
It's mainly because they're running out of people to work for them and they don't have the money for even their volunteers to stay there year-round.
Also note that it is entirely on your own dime (transportation and your family's income for the time being there), you should bring your own tools if possible and all you get is room and food (you usually end up staying with a family in the area) and you're on yourself for the weekends if they don't work (food-wise) since you're assigned to a congregation usually about an hour or more away thus you won't make it in time for the assigned meal times. Also, transportation to-and-from the assigned congregation and family is on your own dime, no reimbursements.
Bethel is no joke, they treat you like dirt, bend you over, don't have money for the lube and expect you to like it.
seeing as it's that time of year i've been reminiscing.
i used to volunteer as i really struggled to sit still all day, even with all the note-taking and sitting next to the deaf loop system and watching the bsl interpreter to try and learn a bit of bsl.. i have.... counted and voided food tokenspacked fruit bags at a sandwich stallcleaned the stadium at opening and closingcleaned and attended ladies toiletsmanned (or should that be womanned?!
lol) contribution boxeswhat did you do?.
Security, parking, food, cleaning, attendant, sound, stage, coats (at another language DC) - I think I did it all except for PR and the other offices where you can sit down the whole time.
if any witness were able to just walk away from the organization with no repercussions, in five years what percentage of witnesses would have walked away?.
I would think at least 30% would leave or start fading from the meetings right away. Some go for the friendships and family - you know those people that treat it like church. There are many out there with different opinions and having problems the way the operation is run right now. If they became a more mainstream christian organization however they would keep most of their membership.
Stuckinamovement sums it up pretty well in his open letter: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204249/1/An-Open-letter-to-the-Governing-Body-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Elders-Ex-Elders
Please help us publish this letter!!!
